November 2016 Vol. I No. V
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The BTS Interview: Erren Geraud Kelly
BTS: Where did you start writing? Who were/are your biggest influence on your poetry? On your life?
Erren Geraud Kelly: College..but even back as far as high school, people told me I could write…Coach Wesley Harris, my Tenth grade civics teacher and father figure told me I had a flar for it; Dude saved my life..he would keep me after class a lot and we would have meaningful intellectual, father and son like talks…Coach Harris, was also an entrepreneur, he owned several properties, and I would help him repair them, mow the lawns, paint the apartments, move furniture..; Coach Harris was also the track and field/ junior varisty football coach and he was working on a Ph.d. He tried out for the New Orleans Saints. He took the time to be with me and listen to me, when no one else did..it blew my mind that a black man could be so successful! A couple of years ago, I saw the movie “ Mr. Hollands opus,” and I was nearly crying by the end, because I thought so much about Coach and the impact that he had on my life…it was disturbing how much influence he had on me. Ms. Susan Ourso, my 9th and 12th grade English teach was another: she predicted I would become a poet. She tried to get me to go to a magnet high school and get more involved into writing, but I was halfway into high school and even though, I didn’t like high school very much and had few friends , I toughed it out and stayed, I had marching band, I had books, and I was just discovering writing, so I gutted it out and I finished it…Ms. Ourso, made me read “ The catcher in the rye,” when I was in the 12th grade…I wanted to read “Hamlet,” and write a paper on it, but Ms. Ourso insisted that I read “Cather In the Rye,” so I did. Many years later, after I had graduated from high school, I wrote her a thank you letter for turning me on to that book. When she told me she predicted that I would write poetry, It freaked me out… When my book “Disturbing The Peace” came out, I made sure she got a copy. When my next book is published, she will get a copy also.
BTS: How does Louisiana, and especially your hometown effect your poetry?
Erren Geraud Kelly: Southerners love to tell stories. Black people have been telling stories,like, forever, going back to the African Griots. We like to show you our heritage. We are about music and rhythm; we are about culture…we definitely love to eat !…we are about community and struggle and persevering over struggle…we are not afraid to laugh in the face of adversity…I remember when I went home a year after Hurricane Katrina, there was a billboard in the Ninth ward in New Orleans that said “ Blown by Katrina ? “ and right under the quote, was advertising for construction work and roofing…Southerners get knocked down a lot, but we get up and we keep going!…I went to a lot of readings at LSU and around the Tigertown area and in New Orleans, and there is a rich poetic, literary tradition there…check out Mona Lisa Saloy or Kalaamu ya Salaam, two excellent New Orleans poets…Pinkie Gordon Lane, who was from Baton Rouge, was the Poet Laureate of Louisiana and a Pulitzer Prize nominee; Ava Leavell Haymon is a another fine poet …Rodger Kamenetz is another good Louisiana poet…LSU has always been a top 20 MFA English program, so we have a lot to be proud of…
BTS: How has California changed you, as a writer and as a person?
Erren Geraud Kelly: I guess I still see L.A. as an “Entertainment town” …every other person I meet here is either an actor or working on their screenplay, or a musician or singer or a model. I’ve met very few poets…I’ve been checking out different scenes…there was a writer’s workshop in Venice Beach that I was sitting in on, and it was pretty cool. There is an open mike called the Da poetry lounge,” that takes place every Tuesday at Fairfax High School…and “The World Stage,” in Leimert Park, is famous for their workshops and poetry slams…I think the biggest California influences on my poetry were Wanda Coleman, whom I read in College and Charles Bukowski; he had a way of taking something complicated and making it simple…recently, I read a upstate New York Poet named Rebbeca Schumejda, who just published a book called “ Waiting at the Dead End Diner,” and it was like in some of her poems, bukowski’s dna ran through them….
BTS: I am not sure it is possible to be a poet of color and race not figure into your work, maybe it isn’t possible for any poet to not have race influence their poetry. How do you see social issues, race and otherwise in your writing?
Erren Geraud Kelly: Like I said, earlier, just because I write about social issues, don’t always expect me to always be political, just because I write about other things, I shouldn’t be expected to be bound by those categorizes, either….i believe that artists have the responsibility to witness and report, but by no means, should one expect them to be a savior; nor should they be! When I was younger, this dilemma confused me because I was still trying to figure out where I wanted to be in the literary spectrum. I love Amiri Baraka, he is the reason why I became a poet, but I don’t necessary agree with everything he stood for! (I don’t believe in communism; I still have a faint hope that Capitalism still can work in America) I don’t think every poem I write has to be a" black " poem…Why can’t I just write about hanging out with my peeps or about a girl I saw on the train?…Even when an artist doesn’t make a statement, he is making a statement; Bob Dylan was notorious for that…But on the other end of the spectrum, I don’t want to be Billy Collins. I am not a safe poet...
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Coffeehouse Poem # 160
The girl in
The porkpie hat
Takes my mind off
The fight, i nearly
Got into earlier
Her british accent
Makes her lovely
I wish L.A. was baptised
In an English
Rain
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Coffeehouse Poem #155
She wears tattoos
On her forearms like
Wonder woman bracelets
As she walks always
The melody of clicking boots
Seduces me like
A red cape
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A Prayer For My Hometown
Lord, please one day to
render guns as obsolete
as a nuclear bomb
that rednecks and swag
will be as pointless
as a fish on a bicycle
and that black and white
will be as indistinguishable
as the blood oozing from
my fingers
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" it might not be so bad, if i never went home again..." Gill Scott-Heron, from " Home is where the hatred is."
About the Ads you see for Kelly Writers House and Poem Talk: Two years ago I took a free class on Coursera called Modern Poetry from the University of Pennsylvania's Al Filries. Since then, I have been a Community TA. I credit Al and ModPo with recreating my need to publish again. When we first started, I thought it would look better with a few advertisements, so I asked Al if I could run a couple of free ads and he said yes.
BTS: Your Othello has a lyrical quality, and I don’t mean exactly Lyric poetry, but actual song lyrics. Do you write songs as well as poetry?
Erren Geraud Kelly: I read all kinds of poets, I like Baraka, I like Claudia Rankine, Daurianne Laux and Ai, interest me a lot…slam poetry especially Sarah Kay and Taylor Mali and Saul Williams are also my go-to guys…I’ve only written one song in my life, when I was in college. I wrote the words, a friend of mine named Steve, who took choir with me played guitar and wrote the music. I do like to read song lyrics, just to see what poetic devices songwriters use. Jimi Hendrix was a songwriter who could have easily been a poet, as was Curtis Mayfield.... Bob Dylan, of course, is a poet, whether he sings or not. I played a trombone in middle school and high school ( 7 years ) and I took three years of voice lessons. It has been my “ Bucket list,” dream to learn guitar and play, but fear always gets in the way…but I’m going to conquer it! But I think a poet is a musician, regardless….
BTS: I have a poetry professor who says the form is the message. I notice your longer poems and your shorter poems have a distinctly different feel. Do you think form guides the message, or do you choose the form to fit your message, or do you not see any real difference?
Erren Geraud Kelly: When I write something, I focus on the content…I’m just trying to get something down on the page…lately, I’ve been writing poems on my smartphone, which has become easier, but I miss the old way of pulling out my journal and just writing it down…I don’t think about a “ sonnet,” or a “ political poem,” or a “ love poem,” I just get down the idea…the poem about “ Othello,” came from watching a version of the play, that was presented in Virtual Reality ! I just wanted to tell the story through the lens of the information/internet age. Once I get the idea ( what I want to say down on the page } then I’ll go back and give it its form, shape it and mold it. It’s probably harder to write a shorter poem than it is to write a longer poem; a longer poem lets you expand further on the idea and really expand on your creativity…but magazines love publishing shorter poems Jcos this is the 8 second attention span/ youtube age.
BTS: You once told me you have a soft spot for subjects and people who are not in the mainstream. What is the mainstream in Los Angeles these days?
Erren Geraud Kelly: Brentwood, Malibu, and
Hollywood… Echo Park and Silverlake are being overrun by Hipsters. Beverly Hills is interesting, though I rarely walk through it; the cops will follow me around. ( laughs ) I like Pasadena…Boyle Heights…South Central has inspired a few poems….
BTS: I notice one of the pictures we are using for this interview is you standing in the middle of Paris. I have to confess I spent less than 48 hours in that city, but honestly think I could live I there? How much of Europe have you seen? How has it impacted you and your poetry?
Erren Geraud Kelly: I went to France in 2002, seeking construction work in the South of France, through an ad on Craigslist. The job didn’t quite pan out, but I still wanted to see Paris, so I took the little money I had and stayed there a month; I did it on the cheap…I couched-surfed, I stayed in hostels, I eat sparingly, but it was worth it! I was in a city that guys like Hemingway, James Baldwin and William Faulkner lived….I went to The Lourve, I saw The Gardens Of Luxembourg, I sat in Shakespeare and Company bookstore, where people like F. Scott Fitzgerald and Gertrude Stein hung out, I made sure I got more than one picture of the Eiffel Tower…People wonder why me, being a black man, would be such a Francophile? After the First and Second World Wars, when black soldiers helped liberated the French, France opened its arms to them and accepted them…Miles Davis spent time their and became well acquainted with Jean Paul-Sartre and Pablo Picasso; Black Musicians and Artists journeys to Paris, cos they knew they would be treated with respect and their creativity and intellect would be valued. The French accepted them !
I try to read French poetry, whenever I can find it; I like Rimbaud and Baudelaire…I’ve read a couple of books by an Italian writer named Italo Calvino, whom I fancy; his work has a dreamy magical realism quality to it; Pablo Neruda and Federico Garcia Lorca, are two of my favorite Spanish poets…I’ve read quite a few British Writers; David Lodge is one of my favorites…My Sis In Law, Camelia, turned me on to Doystoyevsky…I don’t limit myself when it comes to literature or art; my dad travelled a lot around the world and saw things; my brother, Kevis saw the world, by way of the military…their influences rubbed of on me…I don’t think an artist or writer should contain their world or voice to a single place. The world is getting smaller, but I want my art to encompass the entire world !
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Walking On The Grafitti Bridge
I time traveled and i didnt
need a delorian or scotty to
beam me up
i just put 1999 in my
cassette player
And i was 15 again, practicing on my
trombone, wondering could i make
it through another day
i saw visions of graffiti bridge
in my head
i thought about asking alicia bethley
out, didnt care if her brother
charles could kick my
ass, love can make you
crazy and brave
a little red corvette sped down plank
road
i was dreaming when i wrote this
forgive me if it goes astray
as i waited for the bus
my white friends loved
r and b, and rap,
though ac/dc and
def leppared boomed out of
their cars
i made out with girls, waited
for the muse to give
me poems
and laughed everytime my
mama called prince a freak
minimum wage was slavery then
and still is today
but money never matter to
me and money wont matter tonight
young kids die looking for salvation
in purple drink;
theyd be better off dancing in
the dawn in the purple rain
but youth is wasted on the
young
i know why bible thumpers hate
rock music: rap and r and b
can control
minds and
if you can control minds
you can control the world
even if judgement day came tomorrow
and the clocks hit 2000 zero zero
death can have me, i'll be
Happily dancing, in the purple rain
Othello: The Remix
I want to break down the fourth wall
And touch you
Your skin glows, real or imagined
White skin white noise white girl
People say my reality
Is just dreams
But my feelings are not
Schemes
My life is real
My life is real
My life is real
As your image rolls on
A film reel
In my head
You lie on a bed
In a white slip
I made a Freudian slip
Of the tongue
If I could break down
The fourth wall and
Slip my tongue
Into your
Mouth
Like I could slip
My hands against
Your white
Slip my hands underneath
Your slip and stroke it against your
White skin
I feel the lashes
Of the whip against
My back
A virtual inevitability, a
Freudian slip of the tongue
If I could break down
The fourth wall
And slip my tongue
Into your mouth
Like I could slip my hands
Against your white slip
My hands underneath your slip and stroke
It against your white
Skin
A whip against my back
Becomes my reality
White skin white breast white girl
Girls fill my reality
Girls fill my reality
Girls fill my reality
Making me virtually
Love sick
White girls
Real and imagined
Dominate my
Reality
Marilyn Jennifer Sandra Amy
Julia Angelina Erin
I see you and there is
No error in my
Vision
You look like a bowl
Of ice cream, you scream, they
All scream
When they see us together
My hand in yours, a yin/yang
Of balance
But my heart is unbalanced between
Heaven and hell
You’re such a lovely belle
But no, wait, youre a California
Girl
California girls
Are supposed to rock
My world
Whether real or imagined
White girl white world white noise
Erupts from your mouth
As you lie with me in spendor
White noise in a low moan
Like a kitten sweet and
Tender
White noise white world
White girl
Brianna
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Everything was fine until
The rabbit died
I met her at a pearl jam concert
She was in town from
Grad school working on an
Mfa
She liked books more than
Movies
her silicone nipples were
raisins between
My teeth
I loved her ice cream scoop size
Tits, her legs taut from
Years of playing soccer
I couldnt keep my hands off
Her tight, compacted ass
The french quarter became our
playpen
She told me after grad school
She wanted to go
Paris
There, we would help each other
Write poems
Her morning blow jobs were
Welcomed like the bacon
And eggs she cooked
Her screams filled the room
Like her guitar playing
I opened her legs and the
Cut was smooth
Leaving the only hole that
Mattered
But she ran into
An old roommate who knew her
When she was brian
And im left in a sidewalk
Cafe
To finish this poem
There was no rabbit
She couldnt have kids
A Riddle
what's black and white
and red all
over?
America.
“ Can We All Just Get Along ? “ Rodney King